Apple’s iOS 17 with focus on “communication, sharing, and intelligent input”

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traumadog

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It does not, the whole point is it's done in real-time so you can interrupt the voicemail and answer the call.
So, the concerning part is that for this to work, Apple has to intercept the call in some fashion, thus creating a "completed call" notification on the sender end.

Sounds perfect for those struggling with spam callers already 🙄. I've already had phone calls spoofed to look like they're coming from my State licensing agency - and the only hint that they weren't legit was that they didn't leave a voicemail for a callback number.
 
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So, the concerning part is that for this to work, Apple has to intercept the call in some fashion, thus creating a "completed call" notification on the sender end.
Regular phone-switch based voicemail does that anyway. After 3-5 rings, it goes off-hook, which is indistinguishable from the user answering the call.
Sounds perfect for those struggling with spam callers already 🙄. I've already had phone calls spoofed to look like they're coming from my State licensing agency - and the only hint that they weren't legit was that they didn't leave a voicemail for a callback number.
On the plus side, the same processing that's generating the transcript may someday be able to automatically block & delete callers who start going on about my car's poor long-suffering warranty coverage.
 
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ikjadoon

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It seems like the cellphone space has gotten significantly mature when an "iterative update" that focuses on customizations is a full "x.0" version.

Less mature and more stagnant, IMHO.

Mature makes it sound like "it's pretty much done", when iOS definitely could use some major improvements to UX and built-in apps.
 
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EvilMonkey2

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So, the concerning part is that for this to work, Apple has to intercept the call in some fashion, thus creating a "completed call" notification on the sender end.

Sounds perfect for those struggling with spam callers already 🙄. I've already had phone calls spoofed to look like they're coming from my State licensing agency - and the only hint that they weren't legit was that they didn't leave a voicemail for a callback number.

My Pixel on Google Fi has a "screen call" feature where it prompts the caller something like "This subscriber is screening calls, please state your name and reason for call" and then it transcribes it real-time for me so I can decide whether to answer or not. It's not voicemail though. Looks like this:2023-06-05 14_19_53-Window.png
 
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yippiekayakotherbuckets

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Messages needs to have the ability to customize bubble colors. And this stupid Blue/Green nonsense needs to end.
What tangible benefit would bubble color customization justify the effort of building new UI elements to support it? Customization for customization’s sake just makes for a non-user friendly and complex interface.
 
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Will need to watch the announcement when I get home, but how will check in work? Do I need to initiate the signal every time or can it be automated?

We’ve used Life360 for several years and have found the quality isn’t quite where it once was. I’d happily replace it with Find My if I could replicate the good while dropping the bad.
 
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Live voicemail transcription sounds cool, how does that even work? I assume it would need special carrier support.
Pixels have something like this with call screening. You can read in real-time while the other person is saying who they are and what their business is. Could be that the "voicemail" is handled by the iPhone instead of going through the carriers.
 
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ikjadoon

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What tangible benefit would bubble color customization justify the effort of building new UI elements to support it? Customization for customization’s sake just makes for a non-user friendly and complex interface.

I'd like to easily sort what conversations are important and which are not. Colors could also be sortable (e.g., blue on top, purple below, green in the middle).

I don't want all messages to be equal priority. Here's some useful, but not important I'd like to be lower in the super-long Messages list
  1. Shipping notifications
  2. 2FA codes
  3. Appointment reminders
  4. Less interesting group chats
SMS & iMessage are basically forgotten by Apple and still use the early 2000s method of "anything but six pinned chats are in a ridiculously long list and search kind of sucks, too".
 
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Posters will appear not just for calls placed via cellular or FaceTime, but with third-party VOIP services like Zoom or Skype as well.
Is this handled by CallKit? I swear CallKit is probably the most underrated iOS feature in years. Have CallKit compatibility in your app, and it automagically gains the Phone's and Facetime Audio's features, like DND filters, repeat callers and such, and CarPlay support. Even the answer screen is indistinguishable from the Phone app (except for text that says "Google Voice call" or whatever). It makes VoIP calling seamless.

Even though I use Android for my main phone, if I'm going to have more than a short conversation with people I call people who have iPhones from my iPad mini via FaceTime audio, and they don't even notice it's a
FaceTime call, but it's much higher quality, and surprisingly with less latency than a cell call. Facetime audio has such low latency that you don't have to do the awkward waits for the other person to respond.
 
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sakete

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What tangible benefit would bubble color customization justify the effort of building new UI elements to support it? Customization for customization’s sake just makes for a non-user friendly and complex interface.
Lol, you sound like you work at Apple. There is room for both. A great default experience, with the option to customize for the user (and reset to defaults if the user screws it up).
 
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libelle

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The "Suggestions API" coming for/from the journal app have me a bit concerned. I'd probably opt out, if possible. I hope that regardless I'll be able to keep the source data private and on-device, rather than having it processed on Apple's servers.

I really don't need Apple giving me writing prompts based on the music I listen to or where I walk.
 
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El Chupageek

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"Moving on to the "intelligent input" features, Apple is trying to make autocorrect in iOS less frustrating—the keyboard will more readily learn custom words as you type them, and there's sentence-level autocorrect now, too."

It is frankly stunning to see how bad iOS autocorrect is right now, so they would need to really try to make it actually worse. But it honestly has me wonder if autocorrect is even the right paradigm, or should it underlying/highly suspect words and make them correctable with trivial user interaction? At this point I would substantially prefer that to the current dumpster fire.
 
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